To: +kendall harmon (54125 )
From: +Jenna
Saturday, Jul 31 1999 11:27PM ET
Reply # of 54159
Daytraders (I don't consider
myself a daytrader, but a hit'n run trader and if the market
improves I'll consider
myself a position trader, I reserve the right not o stereotype my
trading style.. That
was an excellent article and I took out a piece I think you should
cut out and keep in
close by:
<<Though day trading
has grown more challenging since the Internet stocks peaked,
few day traders have
buckled down to doing the kind of homework that more
selective trading demands.
Mary Lanigan, who is
52 and trades with Momentum Securities in Houston, avoids
Internet stocks. Early
last week, she was amused to find that many of the young
traders around her,
who tend to focus solely on the internal rhythms of the trading
day, were mystified
that Yahoo was slumping despite apparently good earnings.
"I had seen the negative
story in Barron's on Saturday, analyzing the quality of those
earnings," she said.
"They hadn't." >>
This is mind-boggling.
I'm not saying I'm the norm, I'm not.. I'm a computer and
research nerd and I
know it but its also my business. I also know that when I finish the
day or the week I sleep
well, I am not in danger of burning out (I've paid the piper
with two very large
losses in the last 5 years and the occasional stupid moves even
now )
That Barron's article
is the very least this daytrader should have read, but even I've
seen on CNBC when a
BGEN, NKE or LXK sell off they say "Great earnings but
stock still sold off
in that questioning befuddled way they have of reporting."
Daytrading is not the
same for all people. Daygrading for me and SF and probably for
Sam, does not mean buying
CSCO, YHOO, AMZN 20 times a day and selling it
again for 1/8 point.
Daytrading has been forced upon us by the internets and IPO's
that are capable of
giving 5+ points in a trade. That is not scalping. That is like living
in
a time warp where 1
days is set at fast forward to be like 5 days.
I have never bought an
IPO the first day, that is pure and simply gambling. Only in the
last 2 months I've bought
them after 1 or 2 weeks of trading. I try to research them as
much as I can.. some
are not bad. I liked STMP, AUDC, PHCM, and at least 1
dozen others like CMTN,
BRCD, JNPT JWEB, because they do well (FOR A DAY
OR TWO). I stay with
the same ones over and over and rarely hold overnight. I get
out when the loss is
3-4% unless its a short position where I tend to wait until 5%.
I study charts, study
fundamentals, read a lot, watch others I trust, and still make
mistakes.. but take
away every part of the last sentence and you are left with the word
MISTAKES... Have you
noticed how kendall, or kha vu or aliveinsf, how viola
'knows' her stock or
how SF with his technical background also seems to hover over
the same ones. They
are not daytraders.. they trade and sell when the stock loses
steam,, but they study,
ask them about WITC or NITE or ask kha about BEAM or
Burjis about NFF..They
know..As OJ about almost anything or Lee. or how Sam can
read his Money Flow
or just about any regular on this thread.
These are not the same
daytrader that trade with ATTAIN or hit on YHOO because
their neighbor made
a killing in March or April but now its May and the nets died. Or
the self proclaimed
guru who has been accumulating nets not giving in an iota that the
bottom was dropping
out
Too many people are getting
on the trading bandwagon and not doing any research,
can't tell a road map
from a stock chart, doesn't even know what EPS stands for or
things OBV is some kind
of sports statistics. I'm not making light of them, I'm pretty
angered that they are
let loose and not told how difficult it really is. I don't know where
the blame begins.. but
its somewhere with companies hiring these novices and throwing
them into the arena
too quickly.
I was in 2 trading establishments
one day before the tragedy.. It looked sick, stressful,
just wanted to get out
of there. Traders only knew the colored lines of the level II and
talked MM's without
any regard to the company, the volume, the technicals, I won't
even mention fundamentals.
The discount brokers
are providing a wonderful service, education sites like
www.tradehard.com, www.clearstation.com,
www.wallstreetcity.com,
www.multexinvestor.com,
Zacks, all offer what you need, but if you don't go and look
and read and study what
good is going to do opening an account without knowing
how to trade.. It doesn't
take two weeks. It took me two weeks just to learn
Townshend Analytics
and what all the buttons were for.
Anything that will net
your $50-100,000 a year (so they claim) will not take you 1-2
weeks to learn. More
like 1-2 year at the very least and that is full time day and night
starting out with enough
cash to begin with. Its just like that guy at night on the
infomercial who claims
to be a multimillionaire by buying real estate with 'no money
down'.. or the neighbor
who said I'd be rich selling phone cards and explained some
kind of idiotic pyramid
scheme
Get a good education,
not just $3,000 seminar alone but get some books and read,
paper trade, study the
Investor's Business Daily and what it offers. Go slowly, forget
the word 'daytrade'
and substitute the word "individual investor'. and if I were you I
would do this independently
and not 'join a trading room with 30 other prisoners and
the MM and the owner
as warden'.
Also check out
"The
20 Golden Rules of Trading"
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